Episode 52: Talking With Kids About Tricky People with Sam Sutherland



Continuing our mini-series on how to have important conversations with your kids, on today’s episode we tackle how to talk about tricky people. Sam Sutherland—a social worker with more than 10 years of experience working with schools and social welfare organizations—joins Indiana and Ashlee to share her expertise on this topic. In this conversation, you’ll learn why it’s best to use the term “tricky people” over stranger danger, five rules to teach our kids by the time they’re five years old, and some general tips for how we can empower our kids to trust their instincts. Plus, we talk about Sam’s stance on sleepovers, the difference between secrets and surprises, and why she’s never afraid to be the bad guy. We hope you leave this episode feeling equipped to have this conversation with your kids, and possibly implement some new strategies to help keep your family safe.   

Show Notes

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Mentioned in this episode:


Safely Ever After

Tricky People vs. Stranger Danger

Handout: Helping Our Kids Avoid Sexual Abuse <--- This is great to print out and read over with your spouse!

Previous episode: Motherhood + Social Media

Books about sex + sex education:

Books about personal space / body privacy:

Books About Secrets:

Other recommended resources from Sam: 

Darkness to Light

Stop It Now: Circles of Safety Training

Safely Ever After

Sex Ed Rescue (this is site about the overaching topic of sex education… with lots of great resources, but she also does helpful book reviews and talks about body autonmy and not keeping secrets)

Educate2Empower (books + resources to empower kids!)

Educate Empower Kids (lots of resources for talking to kids about sex and abuse)

Victim Grooming: Protect Your Child From Sexual Predators

How Sex Educators Talk To Their Sons About Consent

Better You Than YouTube – Having the Hard Conversations with Your Kids

Resources for survivors:

Stop It Now 

Victim Connect 

Help for Parents of Children Who Have Been Sexually Abused by Family Members

Child Molestation Prevention

Show credits: 

Hosted by Indiana Adams and Ashlee Gadd, produced by Katie Leipprandt, edited by Kyle Cummings.

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